User talk:Seanturvey

Religion-wiki — for all religions and none

Hallo, Sean, an d welcome to Religion-wiki. I see that you've put a lot of work into the site recently, and thank you for that. I have just been going around tidying up a few loose ends this morning: deleting unused duplicate pages and making sure all the links work. I hope you don't mind. Please get back to me if you have any queries about what I've done, or would like to ask any questions. You seem to have a good idea of how a wiki works, and Book of Mormon looks like a very fruitful project. Do you know if the text of the Book of Mormon is public domain, or, if not, what its status is? Have a lot of fun here. Gareth Hughes 09:24, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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I am a list addict. I much prefer for things to be in bullet or numbered form than to be in sentence structure. That however is my personal opinion and obviously does not reflect that of the administration. I recently attempted to propose Faith Wiki to the Meta-Wiki, I however have received a very lackluster response. Yesterday I was introduced to religion-wiki and even though it's scope is not as broad as what I was thinking of, I have decided to concentrate my efforts on this site. Who knows after seeing my work, you might start agreeing with me about lists ;-).

To set your mind at ease, I have re-checked the copyright on The Book of Mormon and it is in public domain. I will check all copyright to any content that I add as I would not want to see such a fantastic project hurt due to something which I had done.

Is there an easier way to transfer large volumes of information such as texts to the site? It would be much more efficient to markup offline and download the complete book all at once. I can continue doing as I have with the Book of Mormon but it seems very inneficient.

By the way, I added Universalist Unitarianism to the Main Page as it is an example of a class of religion. In all reality religion should be classed simular to this:

• Agnosticism
• Animism
• Atheism
• Ditheism (Dualism)
• Entheogen
• Henotheism
  • Monolatrism
• Humanism
  • Secular Humanism
• Kathenotheism
• Maltheism
• Monism
• Monotheism
• Panentheism
• Pantheism
  • Cosmotheism
• Polytheism
• Shamanism
• Suitheism
• Syncretic

Though that may not be a complete list it is a fairly accurate breakdown. It can be argued that religions that subscribe to the Trilogy can be classified as both monotheistic and polytheistic (personally I consider them poly). My religion, Universalist Unitarianism (UU) is also difficult to classify but it is usually listed under syncretic as it is a melding of many faiths and beliefs.

--Sean A. Turvey U.E. 15:27, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I find the list compelling. but I wonder if it is a rather too mechanistic view of spiritual endeavour. Although it is possible to see connexions between various religions and to group them in certain ways, I'm not sure whether one could, or should, be entirely objective about religion. As I am technically a monotheist, I do not feel any greater affinity with other monotheist religions than non-monotheist ones. I think it may be useful to start a comparative religion page to discuss some of these thoughts. I love the work you're doing, by the way. --Gareth Hughes 12:08, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)

MattisManzel 11:50, 30 Jun 2005 (UTC): Hi Sean. When I started religion-wiki my idea was the coexistence of religions on one wiki, which is a metaphor for coexistance in one world. A neutral point of view is an interesting concept for an encyclopedia, just as an encyclopedia is an interesting concept for wiki. But it is not the only one. Wiki is not an encyclopedia and npov is not the only possible attitude to make wiki work. I dislike a lot that the respectable npov encyclopedia-project wikipedia and wiki (the social software) get mixed up all over the place (also partly in wikilandia - that's how I call it -, the wholeness of wikis). Mpov (multiple point of view) is what works fruitfully in many parts of the world and in many communities and I hope it will work here too. religion-wiki is mpov, it can not be npov, I agree to Garzo on that point. Actually I'm surprised how good it already works here. To be honest, I rather expected this to fail within the first weeks but wanted to try nonetheless (I'm a bit of an optimist). I have several dozens of other wiki-project to look after and many new ideas, so my time here is pretty restricted. Just strive to find a solution, an accord for everybody participating. You will, I'm sure. "The administration" - just looked it up, I'm not even part of that anymore and I acctually do feel better like that. People have the power anyhow. On the long run wiki will be decentralized and administration will finally become a task to be taken commonly. Mpov coexistance - you are the poineers here to show that such is possible. Everybody is an admnistrator, everybody is responsible for the wholeness of it. It is sheer technical reasons why administratorship is still necessary. When the server is first being distributed to the clients - (like it's alredy done on the experimental freenet-project) you will just have to come to an accord. There will be no way to switch wiki off anymore, that's another important change to come. Thank you very, very much all of you, the administrators surely included. Cu!

[edit] Book of Mormon

Hi Seanturvey. I notice the Book of Mormon pages and was very impressed, how did you get all of that content uploaded? Did you use a script or are you just very persistent? Any plans to do the same for other religious texts, I think it would be very useful to have them all on this wiki. We may want to lock the pages from vandals, but this discussion pages would be very useful. Rev Bem 18:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)